So your view on psychoactive substances?

[Hicky]

Since this probably won't be a retarded debate between Mario The Black Knight and Giant Squid which ultimately does not end, I pose the question: what is your view on the effects of mescaline, salvia divinorum, lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin, dimethyltryptamine
(or however the fuck you spell that), etc.? Having used salvia (it is legal - it is sold at Dr. Hermann's in Affleck's Palace in my home city of Manchester, England, and all you need is proof that you're 18, which can either be a valid ID or just the fact that you have a massive beard), having read "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley, and having generally associated with the people of a drug-taking variety in real life, as well as foreshadowed my consumption of mescaline at some point this year, I can comfortably say that I don't speak from a position of retarded ignorance - I'm not a chemist or a master gardener - rather an amateur chemist and intermediate gardener - but I still feel I have a sufficient knowledge about this to at least initiate a sensible discussion.

So what is your opinion? Obviously parties such as the Green party would legalise drugs as it "simply does not work", especially considering how easy it is to just buy a peyote cactus, how easy it is for amateur chemists to produce crystal meth (not that that's entirely relevant), and how psychoactive alkaloids don't cause violence and aren't generally a huge problem for society, as well as not being addictive. Obviously as the philosopher C.D. Broad has said, psychadelic drugs disable our ability to care about and be preoccupied by our mundane functions, and instead reach a greater level of being, described intently by Plato and Meister Eckhart.

So, hopefully some of you have opinions on this. What is your opinion on the reaching of a greater sense of perception and being through psychadelic drugs? I am perfectly prepared for somebody just calling all hippies 'fags' and leaving it purely at that, by the way, so if you're one of those people (which there will be now I've specifically warned against doing it, most likely Solly will do it), then I have predicted you. Also, philosophy + drugs = megaphilosophy.

[Kirby]

Personally if it doesn't cause any substantial damage then let it be. Thats why I advicate shrooms.

[Rayne]

Hippies are fags.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

I say if it alters your stat of mind, it shouldn't exist for recreational purposes. We don't need any people killing other people because they be trippin'.

[Kirby]

The thing is shrooms can be comparable to alcohol. The just mess with your brain cemistry andthat it. I mean you shouldn't be drviing in either case but alcohol is legal and shrooms aren't? Shrooms don't even cause addiction nor health problems like alcohol.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

Why do people use these "devices" for recreation> There are FAR better ways to have fun in my opinion.

[Kirby]

There not used for fun most of the time.

[Solly]

LSD flashbacks and such aside, I have no problem with psychoactive drugs. Just the common risks associated with other drugs. Don't lick toads and drive, don't get too high and jump down a flight of stairs. Like any drug, you can become addicted, and therefore the largest risk associated with psychoactives IMO is letting the addiction take control of your life, as opposed to getting high every so often.

[Hicky]

Why do people use these "devices" for recreation> There are FAR better ways to have fun in my opinion.

Oh yeah sure, I'll go play football rather than make the world into an awesome Cubist painting. If you're high, you're free from your desire to do these activities, and you realize that they're all a waste of time.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

I'm just saying... If you feel like possibly killing yourself, go ahead, be my guest. Now I don't know the long-term challenges of some of these drugs, but not all of 'em are safe. If you got something to use that won't hurt you, go make that painting!

[Kirby]

Shrooms have nothing wrong with them besides a "bad trip" or you literally make a "bad trip" on the stairs and die. Look it up.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

I really don't need "Effects of Shrooms" in my search history.

[Hicky]

I'm just saying... If you feel like possibly killing yourself, go ahead, be my guest. Now I don't know the long-term challenges of some of these drugs, but not all of 'em are safe. If you got something to use that won't hurt you, go make that painting!

Erm, football has risks. You could fall over...

[Rayne]

Erm, football has risks. You could fall over...

It can get fatsos to lose their fat.

[Kirby]

Perfessional football is probably worst for your health then weed.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

I never said football was a healthy alternative.

[Rayne]

Perfessional football is probably worst for your health then weed.

Football isn't the gay shit that Americans play. That's bastardised rugby.

[Rayne]

I never said football was a healthy alternative.

I think you're fat.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

I'm not fat, I'm just saying I never said American football was a healthy alternative. Then again, I naver said it wasn't. I'm simply playing Devil's Advocate. By the way, If you think american Football is gay, you are obviously Canadian.

[Kirby]

Or any country in the world besides America.

[Hicky]

Oh yeah sure, because America and Canada are the only two nations on the earth. By football I meant football as in the real English kind, the actual football where feet are used, as the name suggests.

Go on. Give me your activities then, I will tell you the risks of them and why it is not worth it compared to an awesome high.

[Kirby]

Pokemon playing.

[Midnight the dark Espeon]

Sleeping, Chess, Posting on PD, reading... The list goes on.

[God]

i should start playing chess

[Hicky]

I moved the posts on chess because it was off-topic. Lol.

So, psychoactive substances. More opinions plz