re plato: i like the idea of philosopher kings at least
"I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
"What else?" said the secretary.
only reason the name machiavelli rings a bell is assassins creed
"The Prince" is a direct assertion that a pragmatic ruler who clings to power through whatever means is NOT a desirable form of government, as pretty much all of his later oeuvre confirmed. Machiavelli, like Nietzche, is misunderstood - surely you can give him credit for inventing modern political science? All we had before Machievelli is Plato's excellent analysis of when a select few come to dominate the political system in "The Republic".I feel the same way about Machiavelli as you do about Plato.
I was talking only about the ideas about the development of government expressed in "The Republic", for example timocracy and oligarchy, which defined the Greek political system, as well as laying the foundation of modern political thought. I think it's a trivial question to wonder whether or not that conforms to what he previously wrote.His whole philosopher king idea is a complete contradiction to what he had previously wrote (Ion for example). So not only is his idea of philosopher kings one of lunacy and elitism it is also a counter to his other writings and thus shows how convoluted and confoundedly lost he was as a thinker.
Also, the works of Plato were quite possibly rewritten by various civilisations that came to possess them, so wondering whether or not they contradict each other is not as important as wondering whether or not Nietzche contradicted himself. This is an ancient Greek's oeuvre which has been reassembled, revised and translated many times throughout history.