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    Had a conversation with a person all over when it came to political views. His views on the Israeli conflict was borderline anti-semitic blaming literally the whole thing on Israel, stating they should have stayed in Europe and that they were a terrorist run state, nothing new in regards to talking points. I did hear something new from him that I haven't before and it was a stat. (of which I said where did he get it and he just said he "heard" it which made me even further speculative) that if there was a one state solution then in 10 years Israel would mostly be muslim and that's why the Jews don't want a one state solution. I have since looked for that data and have seen the blurb stat. mentioned in blogs and news articles but no hard data or research references. Can anyone find the claim actually purported by a 1st party source rather than a second?

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    israel has about 6 million jews. theres about 2 million arabs in israel, 2 million in gaza and about 1.5 million in the west bank. it's almost certainly a safe bet that the arabs in gaza and the west bank have much higher fertility rates than israel jews because israel jews are basically first world westerners and the poor arabs are essentially in third world living conditions.

    well actually i just looked up the actual ferility rates and apparently in the gaza strip it is 4.57 children per woman and for israel jews it is 2.97. i dont know how to do demographic projections but one could extrapolate and im not sure about 10 years but its probably not too far off.

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    i don't know why i didnt type i forgot the 'i' every single time in 'israeli'

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    http://pages.uoregon.edu/rgp/PPPM613/class8a.htm


    Can you do the math for me please?

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    Jews:

    2014 - 7,788,000
    2015 - 10,108,824
    2016 - 13,121,253
    2017 - 17,031,387
    2018 - 22,106,740
    2019 - 28,694,549
    2020 - 37,245,524
    2021 - 48,344,691
    2022 - 62,751,409
    2023 - 81,451,329

    Muslims:

    2014 - 8,013,500
    2015 - 11,675,669
    2016 - 17,011,450
    2017 - 24,785,683
    2018 - 36,112,740
    2019 - 52,616,263
    2020 - 76,661,895
    2021 - 111,696,381
    2022 - 162,741,627
    2023 - 237,114,551



    These numbers seem off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God View Post
    i don't know why i didnt type i forgot the 'i' every single time in 'israeli'
    i also dont know why i mangled the fuck out of that sentence

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    Can you crunch the math?

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    Also life expectancy for this in Palestinian territories is about ten years less than an Israeli Jew as of 2011. (In before "because Jews kill them so often.")

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    i dont know what info you put in but heres the right one:

    2014 - 6,112,200
    2015 - 6,226,498
    2016 - 6,342,933
    2017 - 6,461,546
    2018 - 6,582,377
    2019 - 6,705,467
    2020 - 6,830,860
    2021 - 6,958,597
    2022 - 7,088,722
    2023 - 7,221,282


    2014 - 5,638,600
    2015 - 5,780,692
    2016 - 5,926,366
    2017 - 6,075,710
    2018 - 6,228,818
    2019 - 6,385,784
    2020 - 6,546,706
    2021 - 6,711,683
    2022 - 6,880,817
    2023 - 7,054,214

    assuming 5.5 million arabs and a growth rate for arabs 1.35 times higher than for jews estimating total arab growth rate at 4/woman vs. jews 2.98/woman.

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    Those numbers for Jews or Muslims.

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    jews
    muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by God View Post
    jews
    muslims
    Even though I was "Right" to speculate the stat. and it shows that Jews aren't "in danger" for ten years I still think things are amiss.

    I think your set population for Muslims is off by 1,000,000 and I think that basing current growth rate alone as the main variable of how to calculate future population is also incorrect. I don't do this for a living (neither do you) nor have I done this in any other setting so it's safe to assume unless we look into this more we won't know the answer. We need to find this out though because if there is one thing I hate most it's loaded talking points with back math.

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    Israeli politicians aren't that smart

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    And alts, I also hate alts.

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    Fuck you Solly you ruined my combo.

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    solly's post is the giant jewish wall separating dogar's second post from its true homeland

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    What formula IS used to estimate future population growth? I can't find it anywhere. Before we confirm the credibility of any current numbers we need to first know how to calculate it using fertility rates, life expectancy current and future etc.

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