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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogar The Brave View Post

    What is emotional cheating?
    What is mental cheating?
    What is consciously "straying?"
    What is unconsciously "straying?"
    I only defined two things- cheating and straying

    Cheating:
    1. Physical (which you said you understand)
    2. Mental (sharing thoughts/ pieces of yourself with somebody other than your boyfriend/girlfriend even if you technically don't have sex with them. i.e being closer mentally and emotionally with someone else)

    Straying:
    Consciously choosing to do things such as frequent strip clubs etc i.e paying someone to strip or whatever. I guess it approaches the definition of mental cheating, except that there is not one individual you are close to or anyone you would cheat on your gf/bf with, but just ... I guess not giving your relationship the respect it deserves? i.e if you are not aroused by your SO, why should you even be in the relationship?


    You were the one who brought up conscious and unconscious straying, perhaps in response to your original interpretation of what I was saying. Also, I said I would not break up with someone over my definition of "straying" but I would have a problem with it, and if it was a continuous issue we would probably break up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogar The Brave View Post
    So, you define consciously "straying" not as being able to appreciate beauty, say a young woman at the pool and getting aroused, but rather IF you find the young woman MORE attractive than your gf in a "concrete sense"? It seems to me that sounds similar to your previous definition to mental cheating and I understand that definition already.
    Mental cheating also implies to me that you "know" the person, you're attracted to someone's personality, you share thoughts feelings etc that you don't with your SO.

    Straying is basically looking outside the relationship for physical stimulation and finding that better than being aroused by your SO. Obviously, everyone appreciates beauty, that's not what I meant.
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    Ok, I understand your definition of cheating now. Before we move to straying would you agree that for either of the two definitions of cheating to be valid either acts must specifically be intentional or rather having the knowledge of what they are doing and thus doing it consciously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixie View Post
    Mental cheating also implies to me that you "know" the person, you're attracted to someone's personality, you share thoughts feelings etc that you don't with your SO.

    Straying is basically looking outside the relationship for physical stimulation and finding that better than being aroused by your SO. Obviously, everyone appreciates beauty, that's not what I meant.
    Then I think you should change mental cheating to emotional cheating. Would you agree with this change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogar The Brave View Post
    Ok, I understand your definition of cheating now. Before we move to straying would you agree that for either of the two definitions of cheating to be valid either acts must specifically be intentional or rather having the knowledge of what they are doing and thus doing it consciously?
    That's what I've been saying all along.

    And yeah, we could call it emotional cheating if you want. I just said mental as opposed to physical.
    Originally made by LM:


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    Ok. For this conversations sake we will agree to the definition of cheating above. Now with straying.

    You defined straying as:

    Straying:
    Consciously choosing to do things such as frequent strip clubs etc i.e paying someone to strip or whatever. I guess it approaches the definition of mental cheating, except that there is not one individual you are close to or anyone you would cheat on your gf/bf with, but just ... I guess not giving your relationship the respect it deserves? i.e if you are not aroused by your SO, why should you even be in the relationship?

    That's the best I can find as a definition in that paragraph. Care to make it more clear or should I break it down to make it more clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixie View Post
    Straying is basically looking outside the relationship for physical stimulation and finding that better than being aroused by your SO.

    If going to strip clubs and watching porn is replacing your relationship, it's straying. This does not involve any particular individual that is replacing your affection toward your SO, it's a more general thing.
    Originally made by LM:


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    Gtg for now.
    Originally made by LM:


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    Quote Originally Posted by trixie View Post
    Did I ever say that? I clarified what I meant a little, but again I say:

    If I'm out with my boyfriend somewhere and he's staring at "a young attractive female" instead of me, I will have a problem with that.
    Oh, ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixie View Post
    Gtg for now.

    I'll pick more at it when you get back then.






    Anyone else want to chime in on this?

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    I hate when losers go on the internet and pretend to know shit and act pretentious as fuck and actually think they're educated and cool

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    ITT: Trixie is right; everyone else is a jerk with a side of dickhead.
    Just do it.

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    itt: henri trying to get with trixie
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    Nah that's all the other threads bro, get it straight.
    Just do it.

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    I'm glad that by page two we've gotten some definitions out there. Well, Trixie has at least.

    Well here I go:

    Many people (probably most notably men) only consider cheating to be physical trysts outside of one's relationship. I used to agree. However, recently, my eyes have been opened to the fact that it is possible to cheat on someone without actually physically stimulating another person. Which then breaks down cheating into two categories: physical (which is self-explanatory) and emotional (which is where things get tricky).

    Emotional cheating:
    [While I don't think I have a complete grasp of/on the concept-] When you are attracted to another person to the point where you start to develop feelings for them that lead to interaction on a personal-relationship level. Basically doing things that you would or would like to do with your new SO, including but not limited to: having 'deep' conversations, spending time together, giving/receiving gifts, non-sexual physical contact, excessive friendliness/flirting, so on and so forth.

    Attraction is natural and cannot be helped. If you see something you/your body likes then you are attracted to it/them. However, I feel that in order to have feelings for someone, the original attraction must be nurtured either on purpose or because you must be near them for extended periods of time. So if you develop feelings for a co-worker, as long as you are not acting on them then you are not cheating (you are probably starting to stray with all the flirting you're doing though.)
    Just do it.

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    With straying, you guys are on your own.

    I'd say that straying is when you start considering or begin to cheat.
    Just do it.

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    lol I've been to the strip club with my boyfriend as an adventure. they're disgusting and the alcohol is expensive.
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    i literally accidentally went in a strip club once

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicky View Post
    i literally accidentally went in a strip club once
    hahahahaha I can see that happening. "Oh, hello, I did not see you there. I am Hicky, Hicky from Pokedream forums." "Whatever you say surgah."

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    everyone who posts on this forum immediately identifies themselves as being from 'pokedream forums'

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    no, i went to this place near where i live. i was with some friends and really drunk and just walking around this building that i thought was solely a house music disco thing. and some bald guy comes up to me and says, 'excuse me sir, 10'. and i say, '10? what does this man want 10 for? what a crazy world we live in.' he's very imposing so i give it to him and just continue walking around drunk. then i realise i'm in this really eerie strip bar with a girl who doesn't really know what she's doing and 50 year old bald guys leering at her. i walk out, and count it as an experience i have now had anyway. it turns out the bottom floor is a disco and the top floor is a strip club

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