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    So, these are my thoughts on the series.

    I am watching Netflix's Marco Polo and honestly, I'm not impressed. The dialogue is bland and the historian in me wonders why, with the wealth of source materials and research done in this area, the series finds it necessary to be "historically accurate" when it sees fit, for example the way women were viewed and treated at this time and place in history, while completely dramatizing and creating a world that never really existed. In my opinion, Marco Polo is a softcore stag film better suited for a 1 am Cinemax television special meant to objectify women, and further portrays women of Asian decent in a Western stereotypical light as nothing more than sex crazed nymphs. Indeed I applaud the production for hiring a diverse range of Asian American cast members but unfortunately it seems only to view them as the "other" rather than actors. I do not recommend watching this series for enjoyment, or for a greater incite to the Kublai Khan's court, or for the story of Marco Polo, but rather as an opportunity to see a prime example of how Western media still fetishizes non-Western women of Asian decent to appease the supposed sexual appetites and fantasies of Western male viewers. Well this Western male viewer does not appreciate nor want this type of rendition of history created and in all honesty it is embarrassing that it ever was. Netflix's Marco Polo is not good story telling, not good history, and not a good viewing.

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    lol dogars a postmodern feminist critical analyst now
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    Haha seriously though, watch the first few episodes. I like porn like the next man but the Marco Polo series is just that when it is trying to be an actual show for mass consumption. It's in poor taste and I don't much care for it. Writer, John Fusco, is just depicting his wet asian fetish dreams and trying to play it off as something profound, watch worthy, and artistic.



    I call a spade a spade, don't shovel tripe in my face and call it good, John. Netflix's Marco Polo is not only degrading to women of Asian decent, but embarrassing to those who indeed do enjoy East Asian cultures, their aesthetics, and history and who full well know there is a time and place for everything. The sexualization of these actresses making them just objects on set to be draped or decorated as the production team sees fit is disheartening and sad.

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    are we ever going to stop being post modern?

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    yes
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    When? We have been post modernists since WW2 now.

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    We are still modernists...

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    We are still Victorians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicky View Post
    We are still modernists...
    modernism was about newness and revolutionary change, and the opening of horizons socially and politically. now all the newness of modernity is usual, there are no revolutionary artistic shifts that are relevant on a general level, science is less speculatively optimistic and social and political horizons are closing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God View Post
    modernism was about newness and revolutionary change, and the opening of horizons socially and politically. now all the newness of modernity is usual, there are no revolutionary artistic shifts that are relevant on a general level, science is less speculatively optimistic and social and political horizons are closing.
    Maybe. Well, we still have exactly the same anxieties as the modernists and we've not outgrown them. We're still massively anxious about technological and social change, and we're still worried about fragmentation and dislocation. Modernism is about finding a centre in our rapidly changing and explosive world, something that we're still trying to do. And if we're assessing cultural movements in a realistic historical scale, Modernism (if we take it to be a a MAJOR cultural and historical period, which it is) only started in the 20th century, and is thus resolutely still going on. For example: The Enlightenment was a major historical period, and it went on for a long while.

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    'Post-modern' implies that we have outgrown modernism, or that we've created a new aesthetic. I don't think we have - all this post-modern stuff is a really small (maybe not minor...) part of the literature that's been written as we speak, and most of it is intensely "modernist" in the way it is. For example, Coetzee, a Nobel Prize winning author writing today, has nothing of the "post-modern" and everything of the "modernist" about him, and this is the case for a lot of writers through a lot of countries. They're still modernists.

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    I think the only post-modern work I've seen is Metal Gear Solid 2.

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    well fuck there goes something off my netflix list. find me something to replace it now asshole

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    the west wing

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    My Little Monster (Anime)
    Attack on Titan (Anime)
    Saving General Yank (Chinese movie)
    The Moon that Embraces the Sun (Korean Drama on Youtube)
    Eureka Seven AO (Anime)

    All of these are good watches on Netflix.

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