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    Vanity of vanities, all is vanity Hicky's Avatar
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    clearly anyone advocating anything that you're not explicitly used to must be 'high as balls'

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    Also, it's definitely just as arbitrary. Agriculture is a culturally learned phenomenon, just like all the other things you're arguing about. You keep making claims about people needing or wanting this or that, when really this desire is culturally rooted, and thus subject to change as technology changes.
    so you think the whole trajectory of human progress and cultural development is assessed in terms of the particular technologies we happen to develop. wonderful.

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    No? First of all "progress" is a fickle word that I would rather you not put in my mouth. Second of all, by technology I'm referring to the anthropological definition: the sum of cultural knowledge and economic means developed by a society, including aesthetics and philosophy. I'd say that's pretty much the root of cultural development, although certainly not the only cause.

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    Hicky I have no idea wtf you're arguing anymore
    Are you just trying to say you're going to miss pastoral poems? I'm sure there will still be people farming and shepherding for the sake of shepherding in the future. What confuses is me is your claim that agrarian-inspired art is of a higher quality. If that's your personal preference that's fine, but that's a pretty ambitious blanket statement.

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    i can only infer things from what you post. inference is a natural facet of debate.

    i just said that i think it is better and that's my opinion. but it is objectively different and more involved in a lot of ways: it encourages a more sensory, three-dimensional engagement in art (for everybody) than just reading a novel or watching a film, which i imagine will be the predominant art forms of the economy of the future. those who want something more sensory, something more concerned with the rhythms of natural life will have to form deeply alternative communities or just take part in obscure, lifeless traditions.

    pastoral poetry doesn't really exist today. but it was the habit in older poetry to have a natural sense of rhythm, a certain communion of natural imagery, which i and i'm sure many others (perhaps not anthropologists or economists) would say appear to be almost inextricably linked with the obligation for some people to till their crops. a very specific type of poetry dwindles and wanes due to the loss of this "arbitrary" connection.

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    let's just agree that we share very different ideals and move on

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    i love you

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