I've actually noticed this myself Tim.Originally Posted by Fullmetal
I think Adam is trying too hard to pass off his passive aggression as playful ribbing. That's right, i said it!
I've actually noticed this myself Tim.
I think Adam is trying too hard to pass off his passive aggression as playful ribbing. That's right, i said it!
We've already got it chalked up to jealousy, Squid.
God's realist point of view disturbs me.
"I prefer a sane world where you are rewarded by providing people with something they want. Not arbitrarily rewarded in a status game that reminds me of chimpanzees." - nazgulnarsil
Here I am with my empire
I’ll bring you to your knees
Ebb and flow with my desire
Cause its all that you’ve been taught to be
I don't tend to like hard line realists either.
If God was president, really, he'd be adaptive and realistic as one could hope without bothering to deal with petty things like ideals and morals. America would be the benevolent leader of lesser nations in the world and it's citizens would be as happy as sedentary oblivious mobs can be. I'm not saying he'd kill the idea that America could once again be run by individuals who actually put thought into the welfare of their lives and the welfare of their country and common man and take personal responsibility for such, that ideal died long ago. I'm saying he'd pretty much be like the final nail in the coffin, the clean up crew that sweeps away all the "archaic" laws and liberties left to collect dust over the centuries and leads us into international community a streamlined machine.
"I prefer a sane world where you are rewarded by providing people with something they want. Not arbitrarily rewarded in a status game that reminds me of chimpanzees." - nazgulnarsil
Here I am with my empire
I’ll bring you to your knees
Ebb and flow with my desire
Cause its all that you’ve been taught to be
TA, stop being a crazy senseless Libertarian who can't even defend his own points.
what are you talking about?
"I prefer a sane world where you are rewarded by providing people with something they want. Not arbitrarily rewarded in a status game that reminds me of chimpanzees." - nazgulnarsil
Here I am with my empire
I’ll bring you to your knees
Ebb and flow with my desire
Cause its all that you’ve been taught to be
What are you talking about? I would leave state-laws at essentially the status quo(although i would push for a standard driving age of 18), I criticized Ron Paul for wanting to return the US to basically an Articles of Confederation type environment. You're the one who said "let them all kill each other" and then tout around ideology?If God was president, really, he'd be adaptive and realistic as one could hope without bothering to deal with petty things like ideals and morals. America would be the benevolent leader of lesser nations in the world and it's citizens would be as happy as sedentary oblivious mobs can be. I'm not saying he'd kill the idea that America could once again be run by individuals who actually put thought into the welfare of their lives and the welfare of their country and common man and take personal responsibility for such, that ideal died long ago. I'm saying he'd pretty much be like the final nail in the coffin, the clean up crew that sweeps away all the "archaic" laws and liberties left to collect dust over the centuries and leads us into international community a streamlined machine.
of course Ron Paul's isolationism only applies to government and citizens, Corporations can outsource jobs and open up sweat shops as much as they want!
More anti-Ron Paul posts coming up
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html
Read the last paragraph.
SERIOUSLY?
Ron Paul does not want to put the gold standard back he wants to give the dollar asset value. He uses the gold standard as an example.
"I prefer a sane world where you are rewarded by providing people with something they want. Not arbitrarily rewarded in a status game that reminds me of chimpanzees." - nazgulnarsil
Here I am with my empire
I’ll bring you to your knees
Ebb and flow with my desire
Cause its all that you’ve been taught to be
i think this was a pretty ok ron paul debate so im postin it
woohookittys (8:13:34 PM): so did you watch that thing I sent you
toomanynamesaret (9:14:31 PM): some of it
woohookittys (8:14:55 PM): and?
toomanynamesaret (9:14:50 PM): im pretty well aquanted with ron paul
toomanynamesaret (9:14:54 PM): it was nothing new
woohookittys (8:15:41 PM): and yet you think he'd be worse than hilar
woohookittys (8:15:45 PM): hilary*
toomanynamesaret (9:15:27 PM): yes
woohookittys (8:15:58 PM): how in gods name do you come to these conclusions
toomanynamesaret (9:16:10 PM): because ron paul is an isolationist moron who wants to return the government to an articles of confederation form and whos followers are tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists
toomanynamesaret (9:16:39 PM): plus he is a racist
woohookittys (8:17:02 PM): actually he wants to highly encourage trade and diplomacy with other nations
woohookittys (8:17:55 PM): he just doesn't like alliances
toomanynamesaret (9:17:42 PM): which is stupid
toomanynamesaret (9:17:45 PM): really really stupid
toomanynamesaret (9:17:50 PM): it is a global economy and a global world
toomanynamesaret (9:17:53 PM): he doesnt realize that
toomanynamesaret (9:17:58 PM): but thats how it is and will continue to be
woohookittys (8:18:46 PM): the bad thing about global this and global that is everyone wants a hand in everyone else's business and eventually you can't keep them out anymore
woohookittys (8:19:16 PM): isolationism in moderation is a good thing IMO
toomanynamesaret (9:19:05 PM): not in this age
woohookittys (8:19:58 PM): economically it's bad, but when it comes to war it certainly is
toomanynamesaret (9:20:00 PM): its a pretty interesting stance as im very much less isolationist than him and am opposed to companies opening sweat shops in other countries paying 2 cents an hour and he is very much isolationist and is just fine with it
woohookittys (8:20:44 PM): it's their business
woohookittys (8:21:10 PM): if some 3rd world country has sweat shops, that's their problem, it's not america's job to straighten them out
toomanynamesaret (9:21:04 PM): yes it is because they are american companies
toomanynamesaret (9:21:24 PM): like it or not the most powerful country in the world has certain moral obligations especially when its own companies are the perpetrators
woohookittys (8:22:18 PM): since when do moral obligations and politics mix?
toomanynamesaret (9:22:34 PM): plenty of politicians(the good ones) have moral obligations tied in with americas standing in the world
woohookittys (8:23:00 PM): america should look after america, if companies wanna outsource let them, it becomes the other countries problems
toomanynamesaret (9:23:12 PM): well i guess that is a very ron paul way to look at it because he is a racist cunt
woohookittys (8:23:44 PM): race has nothing to do with this conversation
toomanynamesaret (9:23:33 PM): its a personality assessment
toomanynamesaret (9:23:54 PM): because that is a fairly cunty stance to take on things
woohookittys (8:24:33 PM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ji_Ft23BDw
toomanynamesaret (9:25:08 PM): i dont know if i want to watc hafter he says barack obaman
toomanynamesaret (9:25:54 PM): his first too points:
toomanynamesaret (9:25:59 PM): yeah man paying taxes sucks!
toomanynamesaret (9:26:05 PM): boo if i wanna smoke pot im gonna cos im black
woohookittys (8:27:58 PM):
woohookittys (8:28:47 PM): you seem to have a natural hatred of the man's ideals for some reason
toomanynamesaret (9:29:43 PM): i used to like ron paul
woohookittys (8:30:22 PM): you don't even collect an argument against him you just grandstand and take his quotes and other people's opinions out of context or say stuff that is just flat out wrong
toomanynamesaret (9:31:12 PM): i collect plenty of arguments against him
woohookittys (8:32:03 PM): like assuming he's racist because of his libertarian views?
toomanynamesaret (9:32:09 PM): http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pol/474964437.html
toomanynamesaret (9:32:19 PM): of course i'll need to look for a more valid source for his comments
toomanynamesaret (9:32:31 PM): but i strongly doubt they just fabricated the quote out of nothing
toomanynamesaret (9:34:23 PM): also he's quoted several times about the ZIONIST CONSPIRACY of course
toomanynamesaret (9:34:30 PM): ill have to find a more valid source for those too though
woohookittys (8:35:07 PM): mm
toomanynamesaret (9:35:28 PM): http://web.archive.org/web/200705121...5/23/paul.html
toomanynamesaret (9:35:42 PM): archive from the houston chronical, which i think is a fairly reputable newspaper
woohookittys (8:40:27 PM): I dunno anything about it so I can
woohookittys (8:40:31 PM): 't say it's not
toomanynamesaret (9:40:52 PM): well its a major texas newspaper
toomanynamesaret (9:40:57 PM): comparable to the new york times
woohookittys (8:41:31 PM): I don't trust the new york times
toomanynamesaret (9:41:14 PM): which of course is biased
toomanynamesaret (9:41:21 PM): but they dont just fabricate quotes out of nowhere
woohookittys (8:41:49 PM): yeah I know
woohookittys (8:42:04 PM): but these quotes are old, some almost 20 years
toomanynamesaret (9:41:59 PM): well hes 72 years old
toomanynamesaret (9:42:04 PM): so even if they were 20 years old
toomanynamesaret (9:42:12 PM): although i think most of them were from 1992
toomanynamesaret (9:42:28 PM): if youre saying things like that in your 50s, it's not like its a mistake of youth or anything
woohookittys (8:42:48 PM): one I think was from 88
woohookittys (8:43:00 PM): yeah I know
woohookittys (8:43:29 PM): but I'm pretty sure 15-20 years is plenty of time to realize there's bigger problems than black teenagers
toomanynamesaret (9:43:47 PM): but im pretty sure if youre saying things like that in your 50s, you'll probably still be a racist in your 70s
toomanynamesaret (9:44:03 PM): he was still into his political career by then
toomanynamesaret (9:44:17 PM): and most of his stances i dont think have changed a whole lot
woohookittys (8:44:56 PM): perhaps
woohookittys (8:45:01 PM): but his priorities may have
woohookittys (8:46:45 PM): which I'm pretty positive they did, otherwise he wouldn't even be a candidate
toomanynamesaret (9:47:10 PM): just because his political platform isnt "only 5 percent of black people have valid political opinions" doesnt mean that isnt still an opinion he holds very strongly
woohookittys (8:49:38 PM): which has what to do with the war in iraq, the economy, national education, small government, and anything else even close to major issues in the election race?
toomanynamesaret (9:49:57 PM): "the president is a massive throbbing racist but thats irrelevent"
toomanynamesaret (9:49:58 PM):??
woohookittys (8:51:36 PM): "the president made some racist statements 15-20 years ago and hasn't repeated those opinions since, instead he's concerned himself with actual issues"
toomanynamesaret (9:54:24 PM): "the president made enormously racist statements in the past and hasnt repeated them since because he knows that theres no way he could get elected if he did" not to mention his actual issues suck so that doesnt help him too much
woohookittys (8:55:01 PM):
woohookittys (8:55:23 PM): I'm really thinking it's more of a vendetta than my hatred of eve
toomanynamesaret (9:55:13 PM): even though i used to like him?
woohookittys (8:55:45 PM): all the more reason
toomanynamesaret (9:55:37 PM): he appeals to the adventurous conspiracy theorist in us
toomanynamesaret (9:55:49 PM): but then i started looking into the issues and realize he is absolutely shit
woohookittys (8:56:43 PM): from the "this is how the world works lets not change it" point of view yes
toomanynamesaret (9:56:47 PM): this is how the world works lets not change it to how it was 50 years ago when it worked conspirably worse point of view yes
toomanynamesaret (9:57:03 PM): i think the world needs to work a lot better and there should be some substantial changes
toomanynamesaret (9:57:05 PM): not ron paul changes
woohookittys (8:59:31 PM): so you think america should be actively involved in many international matters
toomanynamesaret (9:59:30 PM): yes
woohookittys (9:00:02 PM): even ones that don't affect america
toomanynamesaret (9:59:54 PM): in a global economy everything effects everything
woohookittys (9:00:27 PM): ok even ones that don't substantially affect america
toomanynamesaret (10:00:28 PM): yes because it the small effects could grow or it could effect our allies
toomanynamesaret (10:00:41 PM): but of course in ron pauls america there are no allies
woohookittys (9:01:35 PM): he doesn't like military alliances
woohookittys (9:01:40 PM): friendships is fine
toomanynamesaret (10:02:06 PM): military alliances are important for security
toomanynamesaret (10:02:13 PM): they have existed since the beginning of civilization
woohookittys (9:03:08 PM): we're america
toomanynamesaret (10:02:59 PM): ?
woohookittys (9:04:09 PM): what's gonna happen a few nutjobs in caves gonna attack us?
woohookittys (9:04:19 PM): the british gonna cross the pond again?
woohookittys (9:04:34 PM): maybe illegals will take Texas hostage
woohookittys (9:05:28 PM): there are no serious threats to america militarily
toomanynamesaret (10:05:30 PM): a big reason for that is out strong alliances with other strong nations
toomanynamesaret (10:05:40 PM): no nation one on one could defeat america
toomanynamesaret (10:05:51 PM): but having a bunch of allies makes it a lot easier to defeat them
woohookittys (9:06:26 PM): the EU couldn't conquer america
woohookittys (9:09:28 PM): now if we're economically involved with nations
woohookittys (9:10:04 PM): and they actually benefit from having deals with us
woohookittys (9:10:07 PM): why would they attack?
toomanynamesaret (10:09:58 PM): huh
woohookittys (9:11:43 PM): IMO having free trade with other nations would have a better effect than intimidating them with a powerful web of alliances
toomanynamesaret (10:11:42 PM): well it doesnt because there is no gaurentee
woohookittys (9:12:08 PM): well no
woohookittys (9:12:18 PM): but we're capable of defending outselves
woohookittys (9:12:31 PM): and you can bet other nations would move in to protect their investmens
woohookittys (9:12:35 PM): inventments*
woohookittys (9:12:40 PM): investments**
woohookittys (9:13:19 PM): it wouldn't be a military agreement, it would be the other nations individual choice to either back us or let it play out
woohookittys (9:17:55 PM): so perhaps he's more interested in global economics and world interests than you think
toomanynamesaret (10:18:20 PM): no he just doesnt like things that are binding because hes a big fan of the slippery slope
toomanynamesaret (10:18:42 PM): other countries already have interest in our economies
toomanynamesaret (10:18:52 PM): but alliances say they WILL help if we are attacked and we do the same to them
woohookittys (9:19:39 PM): but that can be tricky
woohookittys (9:19:52 PM): lets say some nation has an irrational war and demands we get involved
woohookittys (9:20:24 PM): we spend money and lose good men probably bailing them out
toomanynamesaret (10:21:40 PM): we dont have to get involved in things like military ventures(which is why not all out allies had to help with iraq) but if they actual fully declare a war for a good reason(none of our allies will actually OFFICIALLY declare a war without good reason[there have only been 5 declared wars in us history for example]) or if they are attacked by a military power, we get involved.
woohookittys (9:37:26 PM): you said 9/11 was real and there were no signs that the government had a hand in it?
I fell asleep, so to answer that question TA, yes, 9/11 was real and the government had no hand in it.
So TA, did the site I linked you to make you think 9/11 wasn't an inside job yet?
A suprisingly great post on a washington post blog about how ron paul's elimination of the income tax is ungodly stupid:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/
DON'T SAY THAT!!! Ron Paul is the best person running for election besides Guiliani and you know it!
Anyone is better then Obama.
Oh and lolololol@stormfront
No only about 3 of the candidates were ever better than Obama. Ron Paul isn't better than Hitler. I would vote for Hitler over Ron Paul. At least he had dashing facial hair.
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