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    Default Make a Contentious Economic/Political Statement

    GRRR, I'm in the mood to ARGUE! Make a contentious statement about economics/politics and hopefully a few of us can do just that!!!


    Capitalism has been responsible for far more death and violence than Communism or Socialism.

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    What's socialism again?

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    Property and means of production owned by the community as a whole.

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    How is that any different from Communism?

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    Communism is a progression, and more absolute I guess you could say. In Socialism, aspects of Capitalism could be a part of it as long as it is beneficial to society as a whole, and there is still correlation between what your produce and what you receive. Also, Socialism is just an economic concept, while Communism is social and political, with a world-wide, stateless community.

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    Socialism doesn't sound too too bad. Is it?

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    Not really. The best economic state is probably Capitalism with a pretty large bit of government intervention and regulation.

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    Yeah, probably

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    You have to take into account the social implications though. By heavily taxing people and having most things owned by the government people get lazy, like in Switzerland. Why bother inventing things or trying for a promotion or starting a business when the government takes 75% of your income (90% at the middle class level)?
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    Well that isn't what I am proposing in regards to highly regulated capitalism. In fact I would probably have a flat 25-30% income tax across all tax brackets with no clever ways to get deductions. In regards to my original statement, it had nothing to do with economy, but just saying that Capitalism has been responsible for more death and perhaps even humanitarian atrocities than Socialism or Communism(Colonialism - a direct result of Capitalism - being responsible for the Rwandan genocide, for example).

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    Also last I checked Switzerland had like the best economy in the world.

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    Luxembourg actually does.

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    Same thing.

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    No, not really. They're different nations on different sides of Europe.

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    Sweden my mistake.
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

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    I have something that may get God's dander up. I'm gonna drive around with an United States flag on my car upside down.
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    sweden seems to be doing pretty good

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    the euro saved their lives.
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturne View Post
    No, not really. They're different nations on different sides of Europe.
    Switzerland and Luxemborg are like right next to each other almost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario The Black Knight View Post
    Switzerland and Luxemborg are like right next to each other almost.
    I was thinking Sweden there my bad.

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    "I was thinking of Sweden" is now going to be my response to every factual error.

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    You actually forgot Poland.

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    POLAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!

    Hey, who are supposedly the happiest people on Earth? It was on 60 minutes like a month or two ago. I think it was the Dutch.


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    I would imagine Ethiopian males who are under the influence of Sally Struthers, because while she gives them food, they also get to see tits all day long, every day, because their women usually go topless.

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    nocturne have you observed the average african woman

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