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    Bursaries are exclusive. You have to make excellent grades to get one. They still don't let every Tom, Dick and Harry in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keke Le Cat View Post
    There are no christian private schools in britain? There are no rich people who go to exclusive schools in britain? There have been no school shootings in britain?

    Why would you ask americans why there are private schools in britain?
    Well, I doubt there have been any or many school shootings in britain, because the teachers aren't big pussies and would probably stab the student themselves with their own knife before the student could ever get a shot off. Besides, I've heard that they don't exactly have easy access to guns over there anyway. I've heard they get knives into school over there though. But as I said, The teacher would probably gut the student before they could do anything anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keke Le Cat View Post
    Bursaries are exclusive. You have to make excellent grades to get one. They still don't let every Tom, Dick and Harry in.
    And as we know, excellent grades are not indicative of intellect.
    "I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
    "What else?" said the secretary.

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    I'm not just asking you to explain why there are private schools in Britain, I'm asking you to explain why they exist in general. You limited it to America.

    Knife crime only happens in state schools, where it seems to be becoming a necessity for self-defence.

    To patronise? I see. So a higher level of education is patronising, is it?

    And why are bursaries limited to people who do well? Because they will be able to benefit most from the improved standards of education a private school provides.

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    Most private schools aren't that great, just a way for the lower-upperclass and pseudo-intellectual upper-middle class faggots who think doing well in school means something to get together and masturbate each other. I doubt anyone with any trace of impurity in their blood(as in knowing someone who makes less than 400,000 a year) would be allowed into a school where a Bush, Rockefeller, or Rothschild goes.
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    You keep generalising from American schools. Look, let me give you an example of how it can work elsewhere. Dulwich College is a private school founded by Edward Alleyn in the 1800s. It has maintained a reputation for well balanced students, with skills both inside and outside the classroom, who have high academic achievements. One of the first rules it had was that, each year, twelve students from poor families that couldn't possibly afford such an education must be accepted into the school, and they would only pay what they could, the rest being covered by the school, and this has continued since. The only limiting factor is that only the twelve best potential students are accepted. Now, explain how that ties in with your beliefs, which, quite frankly, sound like the claims of one who is jealous of those who have gone to private school and so feels it is necessary to discount their achievements.

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    The editor have you ever heard of publicity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keke Le Cat View Post
    Most IGNORANT post ever.

    Minorities get free education, small business GRANTS, interest free small business loans...

    It is literally possible for a minority to get $3 MILLION in small business loans with a good pitch. I KNOW this because there was a huge right up in the paper about a young black man who started a business starting out with nothing but a dream... http://www.gramtel.com/content/Home.aspx

    The city/state/country government gave him loads of free cash, interest free loans up to about $3mil BECAUSE he was a minority. After the business was a success he sold out to a major monopoly for a huge profit... Which I think was shifty. But he is set for life like he won the lottery because he had CHARISMA. He was a smooth talker.

    If anything since Affirmative Action it is a GREAT hindrance to be a white man in the job market. They will hire almost anyone over a white man. Including white women.

    When I worked at CIGNA HealthCare as a claims processor I worked my ass off to keep up with minimal claim processing guidelines (minimal was 23 an hour, I usually did at least 30 but once you put a minimum on me I worry.) The black girl next to me was such a character, really I loved the woman. But she came in to work at 10am every day, left early, always "forgot" to clock in or out, processed POORLY about 10 claims an hour when she was at her desk, constantly ate at the keyboard, constantly talked (hilariously,) and was generally fire-proof because she was one of about 20 black people out of 2k white women. There were literally like 6 men who worked there, they were fire-proof as well.

    So minorities have a huge advantage.

    So yeah, stop talking out of your ass till you spend a few years in the work force.
    No, you overassuming bitch, that is not what I said. I never made any sort of claim that they aren't given extensive amounts of help, I said that they don't move up because the vast majority of poor people in urban areas, which is what the system caters to, are complete and total idiots that would rather spend their grants on drugs and pleasantries instead of their needs. Jesus Christ, read into a post before you make a mountain out of a molehill. And stop talking out of your ass until you gain basic reading comprehension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Editor View Post
    You keep generalising from American schools. Look, let me give you an example of how it can work elsewhere. Dulwich College is a private school founded by Edward Alleyn in the 1800s. It has maintained a reputation for well balanced students, with skills both inside and outside the classroom, who have high academic achievements. One of the first rules it had was that, each year, twelve students from poor families that couldn't possibly afford such an education must be accepted into the school, and they would only pay what they could, the rest being covered by the school, and this has continued since. The only limiting factor is that only the twelve best potential students are accepted. Now, explain how that ties in with your beliefs, which, quite frankly, sound like the claims of one who is jealous of those who have gone to private school and so feels it is necessary to discount their achievements.
    The Editor for one I wouldn't want to go to a private school. I wouldn't want my children going to a private school. Schools like the ones you mentioned are mostly filled with upper-middle class rich kids who are just pseudo-intellectuals and think that good grades actually means you are smart(perhaps you are one of the these people the editor ...) and they just all get together and jack each other off. It's stupid. Of course there are a lot of private schools that aren't run by power-hungry upper-class overlords who do want to give some poor kids opportunities. But my main point is really that most school systems are structured horrible, provide poor education(private school included) and are a waste of time.
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    "What else?" said the secretary.

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    University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturne View Post
    No, you overassuming bitch, that is not what I said. I never made any sort of claim that they aren't given extensive amounts of help, I said that they don't move up because the vast majority of poor people in urban areas, which is what the system caters to, are complete and total idiots that would rather spend their grants on drugs and pleasantries instead of their needs. Jesus Christ, read into a post before you make a mountain out of a molehill. And stop talking out of your ass until you gain basic reading comprehension.
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    I believe there are exceptions to that. Minorities born poor tend to stay poor nowadays, but whites born poor apparently appeal to society as a Cinderella story and they are often helped to an extensive degree to get what they want.

    That is exactly what you said, if you do not wish to be taken literally, do not type literally.

    As soon as you resort to name calling, you lose all respect and credibility.

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    And God... I went to public schools, and I went to private schools...

    My dad was a preacher, while that may be a rewarding vocation spiritually, it isn't monetarily rewarding. We were far from rich, and if we did have extra money my dad usually gave it to someone he thought needed it more.

    In public school there were over 40 people in the 3rd grade class, I managed to get overlooked completely. I have severe dyslexia to the degree that it hinders my capability to function normally, plus I am left eye dominate right handed which isn't as common as you may think. My parents were not "hands on" when it came to school work and I somehow didn't manage to learn how to read. The teacher gave me extra math work and completely ignored my english/grammar/spelling skills. Finally in the private school they caught on that I couldn't read and I was basically guessing at everything except math.

    I went to an eye doctor who gave me exercise work books that trained my eyes to work properly. Even now if I do not read several chapters daily my dyslexia will return full force, so that I will not be able to dial a phone, drive a car, or even do basic household chores. Sometimes, its so bad that I walk into door frames, have dizzy spells, etc. It's seriously tragic.

    Anyway, I went to a private school until 9th grade. In the private school there was a higher teacher to student ratio. I was able to excel. When tested going into high school I actually skipped a grade. I graduated early. This wouldn't have been possible in a public school.

    I'm not stupid, I just have one of those personalities that appears less intelligent than I am... It's because I am socially awkward and inarticulate. When I took my IQ test going into high school the teachers could not believe I scored as high as I did and sent it away to be retested at a different facility. I still find it sort of amusing that even my private school teachers thought I was stupid because I am a little scatterbrained...

    I would have probably been in special ed classes in public school...

    After 9th grade I was homeschooled which only added to my social phobias, awkwardness and inability to function well in crowds. I do NOT recommend homeschooling.

    However in all likelihood I will be sending my son to a private school until high school at which time I will be moving into the Penn high region (Granger, Indiana.) Bad thing about rich schools though, kids have more access to drugs and alcohol.

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    im left eye dominate right handed too!!!!

    Really I think just about every type of institutionalized education system is shit these days. I don't have anything good to say about any public school, or private school. College/University is very much better but I still take issue with it in some respects.
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    Tim beileves in EDUCATIONAL ANARCHY!

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    Ooh, irrational dislike of education... Anyway, are we done with this private vs. public discussion? We seem to have dragged this off topic pretty badly.

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    I don't dislike education, The Editor. I mean, I am smarter than you after all. I just hate how our institutionalized education system is set up.
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    "What else?" said the secretary.

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    I don't think you have the right to say you dislike private schools if you have never attended one... For starters, the curriculum is completely different in most private schools.

    In the one I attended science wasn't so much taught, as mutilated. It taught creation science and christian education in every aspect. Monthly I had to memorize a chapter of the bible for recitation in front of the school. Everyone had to do this. We said the pledge of allegiance every morning to the christian, american and state flag in succession.

    So math and language skills are better formed, but science and history are completely distorted to a protestant christian belief. I suppose it's the same in catholic schools except in their history books the pope is always right and in the protestant history books he is always wrong.

    No doubt that the British education system is a better one, and private is better than public and public is better than home schooling. I'm pretty sure that no education would be better than home schooling.

    College/University is the best education system by far, however it isn't possible for small children to learn in that setting, they don't have the attention span.

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    i sort of want to home school my children so i can indoctrinate them with socialist propaganda
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    Home schooled children are anti-social, and usually suffer from ... other mental difficulties. They are just plain WEIRD. While I don't think anything is wrong with being weird, most people do.

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    well i'd have to figure out how to make them better socially, but i really don't want my children going to a public school, and i don't want them being surrounded by shitty rich boy stuck up faggots at a private school either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keke Le Cat View Post
    Home schooled children are anti-social, and usually suffer from ... other mental difficulties. They are just plain WEIRD. While I don't think anything is wrong with being weird, most people do.
    Your anti-social because of your personality, not your style of schooling.

    There is nothing wrong with homeschooling.

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    I know a LOT of home schooled kids. There was a community group I was a member of. They were ALL anti-social and weird. Really weird.

    My nephews are both home schooled and they are both really weird.

    Trust me, homeschooling does give social anxieties because you don't have the pack experience that children who do attend schools have. No boy vs girl difficulties so you don't have experience with the opposite sex to base dating on until your first day of college, no friends, no bonding, no sportsmanship, no clubs, no cliques. No matter how sucky high school is it prepares you for dealing with people in the real world. People in an office are pretty much high schoolers slightly older.

    Plus, I talked to my college psych professor about it and she said that she knew from watching home schooled kids go through the college for 40+ years that it isn't a very good method. It damages the kids for LIFE psychologically. It isn't something you get over.

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    the thing is most parents who homeschool are religious idiots.

    so for most homeschoolers, their psychological damage is not a symptom of homeschooling, but a symptom of having crazy parents, for which homeschooling was also a symptom.
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    That is not entirely true, but I don't think I am going to convince you otherwise.

    It's the cloistering that damages them even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keke Le Cat View Post

    Trust me, homeschooling does give social anxieties because you don't have the pack experience that children who do attend schools have. No boy vs girl difficulties so you don't have experience with the opposite sex to base dating on until your first day of college, no friends, no bonding, no sportsmanship, no clubs, no cliques. No matter how sucky high school is it prepares you for dealing with people in the real world. People in an office are pretty much high schoolers slightly older.
    I've never experenced any of those things either, and I've been in public school for 14 years. They're probably not that way because of homeschool, they are probably being homeschooled because they are that way.

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