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Thread: I am actually LOSING a debate on christianity!

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    Default I am actually LOSING a debate on christianity!

    =>_>= When I debate I appeal to common sense and logic, but when it comes to pulling references they're few and far between. That's because my arguments are rarely on the theory itself but more so on the logic of the theory and how one came to understanding the theory. Well I've been taken out of my safe little box and I'm having my bells rung. Basically he's constantly appealing to authority, which works because I have no authority to counter with and I don't know his sources so I can't claim they're false. He's an arrogant asshole though as he holds himself as an authority and makes personal attacks and is starting to straw man. I'm trying to cut my losses by saying certain points I'm too ignorant on to argue but he keeps throwing them in my face even though I admitted he won those points. I think I can salvage a draw if I keep calling him on his fallacies but still, I can't believe I'm beaten into the defensive by a christian. =._.= I feel so ashamed.

    To make up for how utterly boring that paragraph was:

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

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    I could beat him.

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    Link?

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    I could beat him in my sleep.

    RC, to really debate any argument you have to know both sides. I don't think you know either very well to be honest.

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    I think religion is the most impossible thing to have an intellectual discussion about.

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    Indeed it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God View Post
    I think religion is the most impossible thing to have an intellectual discussion about.
    That would be because religion is pretty much nothing but theory.
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    Faith.

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    Theory + faith/being naive = religion.
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    Religion cannot be theory because it cannot be tested.

    http://www.answers.com/theory?cat=technology&gwp=13
    Theory:
    A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

    http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=religion&gwp=13
    Religion:
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    a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
    2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
    3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
    4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

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    http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=43110492

    It's not an argument of religion so much as an argument over whether or not Jesus existed.
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

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    Jesus in all likelihood did exist.

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    Perhaps, but I don't think he provided enough evidence on his end to make that claim. However, I don't much feel like wasting an entire day scaring up my own quotes to prove a random guy on a message board wrong.
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

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    debating about the logic and truth of religion is lame. debating about the social implications of religion, how it ties in with societal progress etc, is sorta ok.

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    What the fuck?

    Debate Jesus' divinity, not his existance. Jesus the man did infact exist.

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    Well you know what they say...

    If you can't beat them, rape them until they finally see the truth.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCheetah View Post
    Perhaps, but I don't think he provided enough evidence on his end to make that claim. However, I don't much feel like wasting an entire day scaring up my own quotes to prove a random guy on a message board wrong.


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